прийдется спросить на прямую. :)
как увидеть в fvwm-crystal мой xmms? в fvwm2 все ок. думаю что ыависит от стандартных настроек fvwm-crystal, только с чего начинать конкретно не знаю. а перекапывать все маны тоже времени нет.

сорри ниразу не юзал кристал. чеgо он из себя представляет ?

http://www.fvwm-crystal.org/
скажем так: неплохо настроеннхй fvwm2

Лови ссылку
http://www.zensites.net/fvwm/guide/menu.html
Определяешь функцию
DestroyFunc FvwmXmms
AddToFunc FvwmXmms
+ I Exec exec xmms
....
и добавляешь её в меню (с путём к иконке)
...
#####
# Programs Menu
###########
DestroyMenu FvwmProgramsMenu
AddToMenu FvwmProgramsMenu "Programs" Title
+ "GVim%menu/vim.png%" FvwmGVim
+ "Gimp%menu/gimp.png%" FvwmGimp
+ "FireFox%menu/firefox.png%" FvwmFireFox
+ "Irssi%menu/irc.png%" FvwmIrssi
+ "Xmms%menu/xmms.png%" FvwmXmms
+ "XRoach-Invasion%menu/xroach.png%" XRoachInvasion
+ "XRoach-Exterminate%menu/xroach.png%" XRoachExterminate

это все уже есть. проблема в том что процесс xmms существует но самой оболочки xmms я не вижу.
самое интересное что ингода при закрытии fvwm сессии окно на секунду появляется а потом пропадает.
че изменить не пойму?

пройдись grepом по конфигу и найди все строки с xmms и запости сюда

был бы рад но там единого конфига нет. все разбито на разделы. откуда начинать?

grep -r
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Hедокyментиpованные ошибки Windows 95. Tpехтомник.

вот:
13:56:16^ lanixx :~ > grep -r Xmms /usr/share/fvwm-crystal/*
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I Style XmmsFind* NoTitle
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I Style XmmsFind* StaysOnTop
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I Style XmmsFind* Sticky
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I Style XmmsFind* StartNormal
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I TestRc (Match) Wait XmmsFind*
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I All (XmmsFind*, CurrentPage) Focus
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/FvwmXmms:DestroyFunc FvwmXmms
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/FvwmXmms:AddToFunc FvwmXmms

а вот еще:
16:55:47^ root :/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions # grep -r xmms /usr/share/fvwm-crystal/*
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/Applications/Multimedia/Audio_players/15~xmms~XMMS:exec xmms $@
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/styles/Application-Icons-22-32:Style xmms MiniIcon 22x22/apps/xmms.png, NoIcon
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:SetEnv XMMS-Playlists "$[HOME]/.fvwm/xmms-playlists"
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:Style xmms StaysOnTop
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:CheckPreferences DefaultMixer "Include components/functions/Mixer-xmms"
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I PipeRead 'xmms-shell -e "volume" | head -1 | sed -e "s/Left channel volume:\ //" | sed -e "s:[ \t]::g" | sed -e "s:^.\\+$:AddToMenu\ /Music \'$[gt.Volume] \(&%%\)\' Popup /Mixer:"'
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I AddToMenu /Music '$[gt.Toggle repeat]' Exec exec xmms-shell -e "repeat toggle"
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I Exec exec xmms --play
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I Exec exec xmms --pause
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I Exec exec xmms --stop
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I Exec exec xmms --play-pause
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I Exec exec xmms --fwd
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I Exec exec xmms --rew
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I Exec exec xmms-shell -e "forward"
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I Exec exec xmms-shell -e "backward"
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I Exec exec xmms-shell -e "shuffle toggle"
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I Exec exec xmms-shell -e "remove `xmms-shell -e currenttrack | sed -e 's/Current song: //' -e 's/\..*//'`"
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I Exec pidof xmms && exec xmmsfind_remote
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms: echo \"AddToMenu /Music/LoadPlaylist \'$sname\' Exec exec xmms -e \'$i\'\"; done'
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:*Music-SavePlaylist-Dialog: Command Exec exec xmms-shell -e "save '$[XMMS-Playlists]/$(PlaylistName).m3u'"
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms:+ I Exec exec xmms-shell -e "clear"
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Preferences-Menu:Test (x xmms-shell) + '%22x22/apps/xmms.png%XMMS' SelectMusicPlayer xmms
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Preferences-Menu:Test (x xmms2) + '%22x22/apps/xmms2.png%XMMS2' SelectMusicPlayer xmms2
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Preferences-Menu:+ I FindCommand MusicPlayer $0 mpd quodlibet xmms xmm2 cdcd
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Preferences-Menu:Test (x xmms-shell) + '%22x22/apps/xmms.png%XMMS' SelectMixer xmms
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Preferences-Menu:Test (x xmms2) + '%22x22/apps/xmms2.png%XMMS2' SelectMixer xmms2
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Preferences-Menu:+ I FindCommand DefaultMixer $0 aumix mpd quodlibet xmms xmms2 cdcd
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Mixer-xmms:+ I Exec exec xmms-shell -e "volume $0"
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Mixer-xmms:+ I Exec exec xmms-shell -e "upvolume $0"
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Mixer-xmms:+ I Exec exec xmms-shell -e "downvolume $0"
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Mixer-xmms2:# Based on xmms2 command-line client, version 0.2 DrBombay
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Mixer-xmms2:+ I Exec xmms2 config output.volume $0/$0
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:# Based on xmms2 command-line client, version 0.2 DrBombay
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:CheckPreferences DefaultMixer "Include components/functions/Mixer-xmms2"
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:+ I PipeRead 'xmms2 current | sed -e "s:^ERROR.*$:$[gt.Player is stopped]:" | sed -e "s:^.*$:AddToMenu /Music \'\&\':"'
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:#+ I PipeRead 'xmms2 configlist | grep output\.volume | sed -e "s;output.volume = ;;" | sed -e "s;^.*$;AddToMenu /Music \'$[gt.Volume]: \&\' Popup /Mixer:;"'
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:+ I Exec xmms2 play
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:+ I Exec xmms2 pause
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:+ I Exec xmms2 stop
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:+ I Exec xmms2 next
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:+ I Exec xmms2 prev
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:+ I Exec xmms2 next
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:+ I Exec xmms2 remove `xmms2 list | sed -e "s;^->\[;;" | sed -e "s;/.*;;"`
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:+ I Exec xmms2 shuffle
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:+ I All (gxmms2) Close
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:+ I TestRc (False) None (gxmms2) X gxmms2
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:+ I PipeRead 'xmms2 list | head -n -2 | sed -e "s:^.*\[\(.*\)/.*\] \(.*\)$:AddToMenu /Music/CurrentPlaylist \'\2\' Exec xmms2 jump \'\1\':"'
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:+ I PipeRead 'xmms2 mlib playlists_list | sed -e "s:^.*$:AddToMenu /Music/LoadPlaylist \'&\' Exec xmms2 mlib load_playlist \'&\':"'
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:*Music-SavePlaylist-Dialog: Command Exec xmms2 mlib save_playlist "$(PlaylistName)"
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:+ I Exec xmms2 mlib loadall
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:+ I Exec xmms2 clear
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/Music-xmms2:+ I PipeRead 'xmms2 mlib playlists_list | sed -e "s:^.*$:AddToMenu /Music/RemovePlaylist \'&\' Exec xmms2 mlib remove_playlist \'&\':"'
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions/FvwmXmms:+ I Exec exec xmms
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/preferences/DefaultMusicPlayer:FindCommand MusicPlayer mpd quodlibet xmms xmms2 cdcd
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/preferences/DefaultMusicPlayer:#Include components/functions/Music-xmms
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/preferences/DefaultMusicPlayer:#Include components/functions/Music-xmms2
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/recipes/Old School:*FvwmIconMan-Icons: DontShow Class=xmms,FvwmButtons,FvwmIconMan,FvwmPager,FvwmIdent,FvwmForm
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/recipes/Old School:*FvwmIconMan-Windows: DontShow Class=xmms,FvwmButtons,FvwmIconMan,FvwmPager,FvwmIdent,FvwmForm
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/recipes/Default:*FvwmIconMan-Icons: DontShow Class=xmms,FvwmButtons,FvwmIconMan,FvwmPager,FvwmIdent,FvwmForm
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/recipes/Default:*FvwmIconMan-Windows-Left: DontShow Class=xmms,XTerm,Eterm,xfce4-terminal,konsole,gnome-terminal,Multi-gnome-terminal,urxvt,FvwmButtons,FvwmIconMan,FvwmPager,FvwmIdent,FvwmForm
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/recipes/Default:*FvwmIconMan-Windows-Right: DontShow Class=xmms,FvwmButtons,FvwmIconMan,FvwmPager,FvwmIdent,FvwmForm
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/recipes/Default with ACPI:*FvwmIconMan-Icons: DontShow Class=xmms,FvwmButtons,FvwmIconMan,FvwmPager,FvwmIdent,FvwmForm
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/recipes/Default with ACPI:*FvwmIconMan-Windows-Left: DontShow Class=xmms,XTerm,Eterm,xfce4-terminal,konsole,gnome-terminal,Multi-gnome-terminal,urxvt,FvwmButtons,FvwmIconMan,FvwmPager,FvwmIdent,FvwmForm
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/recipes/Default with ACPI:*FvwmIconMan-Windows-Right: DontShow Class=xmms,FvwmButtons,FvwmIconMan,FvwmPager,FvwmIdent,FvwmForm
/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/recipes/Nebulae:*FvwmIconMan-Windows: DontShow Class=xmms,FvwmButtons,FvwmIconMan,FvwmPager,FvwmIdent,FvwmForm
16:55:49^ root :/usr/share/fvwm-crystal/fvwm/components/functions #

есть у кого идеи? а то задолбало уже через амарок слушать музыку.